as the attacks, without being hit by a plane?"...

"The neo-cons knew they needed a new Pearl Harbour to justify going into Iraq - they'd talked and written about it before they were even in power"...

"What about the odd stock trading immediately before? Lots of people put options on Boeing stocks so that they'd make money if the stocks fell"...

"Why did eyewitnesses report explosions before the planes hit?"... "Why didn't the air force shoot down the planes?"... "Why are the police always arresting terror suspects, then releasing them without charge?"...

"There's just so much stuff in what we're told that doesn't make sense," summarises 24-year-old Toseef, the only Muslim in the group.

Stefan, a charity fundraiser who began to doubt the official story only

‘We want to distance ourselves from the conspiracy nuts who believe that aliens or the Jews did it ’

last year, says: "We're trying to distance ourselves from the conspiracy theorist nuts who believe that aliens did it, who accuse the Jews. We're not trying to push a theory. But we feel we've got to get out and tell people about our doubts, open their eyes.

"Look at Nazi Germany [in the 1930s] - the average German wasn't speaking out about it. I don't want to be in that situation years down the line."

All fervently deny that what they are saying should be offensive to victims' families. "We're trying to get the truth for everyone's sakes," says Toseef.

Most of these men admit that their mistrust of mainstream scientists, journalists and politicians is so deep that they probably couldn't be persuaded by any government-sponsored investigation to change their attitude.